tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post1175522742824427147..comments2024-01-17T11:49:16.907-05:00Comments on Greater Philadelphia Bicycle News: Coming Soon - Bike Lanes for Spruce and PineUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-56700677713366598202010-05-21T10:05:59.575-04:002010-05-21T10:05:59.575-04:00I love this stuff freelance writer jobsI love this stuff <a href="http://www.essaywriters.net/" rel="nofollow">freelance writer jobs</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-21041414463798243622009-09-24T09:32:38.292-04:002009-09-24T09:32:38.292-04:00This is ridiculous. I am a firefighter in the area...This is ridiculous. I am a firefighter in the area and we have a tough enough time getting around the city without the added congestion. Now that 2 engines in the area have closed we are doing over twice as many runs. I am a biker myself and I think that this is just an awful idea. I bike all over up in the northeast but I don't live close enough to have biking into center city for work as an option<br /><br />@Anonymous said...<br />I'll stop at stop signs when cars learn to stop at stop signs.<br /><br />I'm at a loss to understand why cars are so bothered by bikes. Explain how a bicycle can possible hurt a car.<br /><br />Yea, two wrongs don't make a right. You are one of the reasons that auto drivers get pissed off at us bikers. A bike doesn't necessarily have to hurt a car, the driver of the car could be trying to avoid the bike and get involved in an entirely different accident and if he does hit the bike, the driver of the car has to deal with the fact that he probably mangled you because you couldn't stop at a stop sign. Im sure that you never tried maneuvering a 2 ton fire truck around a bike that decided to veer in front of you with traffic on one side and parked cars on the other. It is not fun yet it happens everyday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-9942748754137414322009-09-23T10:49:39.332-04:002009-09-23T10:49:39.332-04:00I think its great to see the city take another ste...I think its great to see the city take another step in the direction of embracing bicycle traffic. Its easier on the city, its better for the environment and its healthier for all of us. Its interesting to me that people are complaining about losing a few lanes of traffic considering the thousands in this city already dedicated to motor vehicles. Riding around this city on a bicycle is dangerous enough with how reckless motorists tend to be. This will make everyone safer. Of course there are always going to be idiots on both sides of the equation, but not all cyclists flaunt traffic rules, and the same goes for motorists. The difference is on a bicycle you are going slow enough to be able to tell if there is traffic approaching that intersection a lot easier than in a car, which is why a lot of bikers do it. Not saying its safe or a good habit, but it happens and as long as you're cautious and not trying to sprint through intersections you can't see then I don't see the big deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-48692970265482050502009-08-26T16:00:44.270-04:002009-08-26T16:00:44.270-04:00As both a bicycle enthusiast and Society Hill resi...As both a bicycle enthusiast and Society Hill resident (who depends on street parking) I think the lanes are a bad idea. Too many residents and businesses depend on stopping in one lane to unload their vehicles (myself included) to make a safe lane that will be enforced and not encroach on the quality of life of the actual residents of the neighborhood (as opposed to commuters using it as a through-way).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-80277743979628965792009-08-24T20:45:03.703-04:002009-08-24T20:45:03.703-04:00What happened to the idea of cross-city E/W bike l...What happened to the idea of cross-city E/W bike lanes on SpringGarden? Seems like there is more room for it to work there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-52003089421305440882009-08-10T09:28:29.251-04:002009-08-10T09:28:29.251-04:00@anonymous (8:57AM)
As for messing up traffic, fr...@anonymous (8:57AM)<br /><br />As for messing up traffic, from my experiences from driving down that street, the traffic pattern is one lane anyway. Too many people like to drive in the middle to consider that a two lane street for cars. If anything, this will make traffic more organized.<br /><br />How do bike lanes cause construction? I would think that it would reduce construction. Bikes are easier on the road, and the roads will require less maintenance, thus less construction.<br /><br />I've had more people want to visit the city after I tell them about the bike lane. It makes the city more enjoyable when you can walk around and see more bikes instead of cars.<br /><br />Parking is *always* an issue in the city, and there's always someone who's going to complain about it. Unless we turn half of the city into a parking garage, we're not going to solve the parking issue. How about using your bike instead? I hear you can park like 30 bikes into a spot where only one car can fit. That might help your parking issue.<br /><br />The parking meter topic issue is a red herring.<br /><br />If Philly didn't care about the residents, they wouldn't be trying to improve the streets.Jonathan Bringhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04924515634767572477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-91089838634727739372009-08-10T08:57:24.358-04:002009-08-10T08:57:24.358-04:00this is horrendous news - i live on this street a...this is horrendous news - i live on this street and i DO NOT want a bike lane messing up traffic, causing construction, and resulting in LESS and less people wanting to visit me and/or visit philly in general. Isnt it bad enough that were making parking meters 25 cents for 8 mins? we now have to take away lanes that are used for parking? Doesnt philly care at all about the residents on that street?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-16189434712494514482009-07-15T10:38:24.933-04:002009-07-15T10:38:24.933-04:00"A dedicated bike lane is too much of a conce..."A dedicated bike lane is too much of a concession for vehicular traffic, which probably outnumbers cyclists by 100 fold - with whom they would now split 50 percent of the road."<br /><br />@anonymous: The BCGP can probably cite some statistics about the percentage of commutes that are made in Center City by bikes vs. cars and I'm sure the difference wouldn't be a "100 fold." But even it were, cars still have Lombard, South, Locust, Walnut, Sansom, Chestnut, Market, JFK, Arch... so I think they'll be ok. Two full lanes on Spruce and Pine are very little to ask for.Dan Pohlighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09413136743007761006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-19323817193238302192009-07-15T10:12:37.138-04:002009-07-15T10:12:37.138-04:00Car drivers tend to be frustrated driving in the c...Car drivers tend to be frustrated driving in the city in general (including myself when I drive in the city). <br /><br />Take a look at any car commercial and note the driving conditions. Drivers are always shown to be in an ideal car environment -- driving on a road alone with a beautiful sunset in the distance for example.<br /><br />In reality, this promise of a driving utopia is broken. There are endless double parked trucks, traffic, potholes, and yes, even those "annoying" cyclists zooming by their $30,000 car and getting to their destination quicker, and with no parking problems.<br /><br />This breeds malcontent between drivers and cyclists; sometimes even if the drivers are the cyclists.Jonathan Bringhursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04924515634767572477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-91125325998864535132009-07-15T09:42:06.787-04:002009-07-15T09:42:06.787-04:00I'll stop at stop signs when cars learn to sto...I'll stop at stop signs when cars learn to stop at stop signs.<br /><br />I'm at a loss to understand why cars are so bothered by bikes. Explain how a bicycle can possible hurt a car.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-74006068680912338552009-07-15T00:38:52.986-04:002009-07-15T00:38:52.986-04:00When are arrogant bicyclists going to start obeyin...When are arrogant bicyclists going to start obeying traffic laws, like yielding to pedestrians and stopping at red lights and stop signs?<br /><br />You're not special. The law applies to you too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-34033993522210943722009-07-14T18:58:15.446-04:002009-07-14T18:58:15.446-04:00This sounds like very good news to me. Have folks ...This sounds like very good news to me. Have folks noticed how aggressive and rude motorists currently are on Pine and Spruce St.? I bike on both streets regularly and can attest to the wrecklessness of motorists on these streets and their tendency to yell obscenities at bikers.Dr. Rudolph Masciantonionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-63925100422281276992009-07-14T15:55:02.675-04:002009-07-14T15:55:02.675-04:00Assuming that the issue with loading and unloading...Assuming that the issue with loading and unloading zones is addressed correctly (i've never seen these on Spruce or Pine and I bike the segment regularly), vehicular traffic should only minimally be effected. Currently, the second lane is generally used for loading and loading, causing traffic to flow in a single lane. So, creating the dedicated bike lane is really only formalizing a traffic pattern that already exists....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-79074266209722142802009-07-14T14:59:58.342-04:002009-07-14T14:59:58.342-04:00While this seems like a victory for cyclists, I th...While this seems like a victory for cyclists, I think it is a mistake. A dedicated bike lane is too much of a concession for vehicular traffic, which probably outnumbers cyclists by 100 fold - with whom they would now split 50 percent of the road. And the Broadway-Manhattan comparison does not remotely parallel this situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-13746801513823845432009-07-14T11:41:00.168-04:002009-07-14T11:41:00.168-04:00Is there any word on a south heading bike lane in ...Is there any word on a south heading bike lane in the works? It's the only direction not represented and would help bikers to et safely across the city.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-18622809452254987662009-07-14T10:28:58.169-04:002009-07-14T10:28:58.169-04:00The Bicycle Ambassadors are going to do a "sw...The Bicycle Ambassadors are going to do a "sweep" of Spruce and Pine to identify major street defects next week. The Bicycle Coalition will share that information with the Streets Dept. and ask them to try and fix as many as most severe problems as possible before the painting of the lanes begins. But, the major repaving of the streets won't occur until next year. At that time, if this pilot project is considered successful, higher quality paint will be used to repaint the lanes after the resurfacing.Sarah C. Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13426386362813520839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-40784383332118598752009-07-14T10:14:59.132-04:002009-07-14T10:14:59.132-04:00Just for clarification: Will there be some repavin...Just for clarification: Will there be some repaving on Spruce Street? Between at least 9th and Broad there are serious potholes, cracks, bumps, etc. They make the bike ride down Spruce less desirable for me than say Walnut even though Walnut is overcrowded with traffic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-2202925057238893392009-07-14T09:07:32.666-04:002009-07-14T09:07:32.666-04:00Actually Matt you were right the first time, but t...Actually Matt you were right the first time, but the lane is buffered and therefore will be significantly wider than the rest of the 200 miles of bike lanes in the city. We think that wider streets such as Spring Garden and JFK Blvd are more appropriate candidates for physically separated bike lanes.<br /><br />Illegal parking and other vehicle incursions will happen as they do everywhere else. It's important that we report these places where the lanes are chronically blocked to 311. The squeaky wheel...John Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05457483323035515510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-90545554993402737792009-07-14T08:43:11.829-04:002009-07-14T08:43:11.829-04:00Parking on the north side of Spruce Street during ...Parking on the north side of Spruce Street during religious services contributes significantly to the communities of Congregation Beth Zion Beth Israel (18th and Spruce), 10th Presbyterian Church (17th and Spruce) and Society Hill Synagogue (418 Spruce). As a cyclist, I welcome the focus on our needs for safe riding. We hope that the Pine and Spruce Street plans can also accommodate these important community needs.Bob Blacksberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17419826728639487024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-15258548241840757442009-07-13T19:46:51.423-04:002009-07-13T19:46:51.423-04:00Okay, slowly learning to read fully before I speak...Okay, slowly learning to read fully before I speak. After looking at the linked proposal, I am very glad to see the 9th Ave. model proposed. I think the bike lane separated by parked cars and raised markers is the safe and reasonable solution. Again, thank you for your efforts.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-67492923333694824752009-07-13T19:38:30.741-04:002009-07-13T19:38:30.741-04:00I am very happy to hear we are doing something to ...I am very happy to hear we are doing something to positively effect cycling in Philadelphia. I am dismayed that it seems to be a half step. The bike lanes in New York are truly inspiring. There is no issue of delivery trucks or enforcement because there is a raised median separating car traffic from bike traffic. This is what we should push for in Philadelphia. Based on the history of the already designated bike lanes here, we have absolutely no reason to think that law enforcement will enforce traffic laws in regard to these new bike lanes. Please, let's try and add this to the discussion while we still have the ear of the Nutter administration. Thank you BCGP.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-31814418726318103422009-07-13T18:58:16.443-04:002009-07-13T18:58:16.443-04:00regrading so the bike lane is at a higher elevatio...regrading so the bike lane is at a higher elevation would be great, but i think it would cause for railing or protective barriers, which may be unsightly and way more expensive.<br /><br />good to see progress though!paul drzalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15414666799500994604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-87009392146906891722009-07-13T18:54:21.964-04:002009-07-13T18:54:21.964-04:00Well, all difficulties with double parkers and inc...Well, all difficulties with double parkers and incorrect lane users aside: WOO HOO!!!!!!!!! <br /><br /><br />Thank you Mayor Nutter and the BCP!caduceusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-87769695879927105812009-07-13T16:51:04.305-04:002009-07-13T16:51:04.305-04:00Will there be loading zones in the parking lane?
...Will there be loading zones in the parking lane?<br /><br />Will police respect the lane and not park in it for their own convenience? (as in 22nd at Lombard)Tanyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5227147.post-81476657350153383782009-07-13T16:06:35.496-04:002009-07-13T16:06:35.496-04:00Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally!
Everyone who is for this...Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally!<br /><br />Everyone who is for this, I suggest writing Mayor Nutter and Deputy Cutler a quick thank you! I'm gonna.Taggarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01993539370243645624noreply@blogger.com